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No way you are a villa fan. You even describe “their” high point as a 5-1 victory, as opposed to our high point . You will never be as successful as us . SOTC

Yeh they made it to the final but they were lucky against us and again against West Ham who just crumbled after they scored. There is no chance Blues will beat Arsenal at Wembley. As for the gap between us, look back at the day we bought Bent for £18 going on to £24 mill. On the day we were makin our record signing Robbie Keane was rubbishing claims city made that they tried to buy him. They cant even afford him!

I’m sorry but I disagree with your article. Form is temporary, class is permanent.

Villa are streets ahead of their local rivals in terms of history, facilities, youth development and infrastructure and even dare I say it; the current playing squad considering the clubs recent investment.

A well made point Nick. I feel I’ve failed my fellow Villains, by observing from a distance instead from the comfort of the Holte End. Duly noted and amended.

Absolute TOSH!!!!

You win nothing for finishing 2nd in a cup final!!! And that is what the Blues will have….

100 years and won **** all!!!

They are an unatractive football club who are the scum of this city!!!

We dont mind taking there best player for peanuts!!!

UTV SOTC!!!!!

It’s ‘their best player’, actually. And a player that has now found himself on the fringes due to David Bentley’s arival.

Anything other than pure hatred for your city rivals is always going to enrage those who see nothing but the colour of the club and having such enthusiastic support is what makes Villa fans so effective.

However, there seems to be a tendency in the comments (thanks for all of them) to rest on the historical superiority of Villa. This is quite clearly miles ahead of Blues as they’ve won little of significance, but it doesn’t change the fact that this season the clubs have been difficult to separate (two draws and a narrow win), although fingers crossed Villa will have a stronger second half of the season.

Successful? when did the vile porkers last win a major trophy (I guess we’re not including League cups then)?

We can include League Cups if you want MAsaccio, as I did mention your victory in the same tournament in 1963. If that’s the case our last victory was 1996, but excluding League Cups it was 1982. European Cup.

There is not only an historical superiority, but a current. The fact that “the table doesn’t lie” can sometimes be taken to mean too much.

The reality is that even in the best of times, included anytime in the last 20 years, city has only had a real shot at villa in the two seasons were the latter was at its definite low result-wise. That being the first half of this year, and City’s comeback season in the top flight. Only then has City been able to beat villa. Note that I could not even write “comeback to the premiership”, as 2001 was city’s debut season in the EPL.

For all of the rest of the last 20, Villa has either dominated city on the pitch or been playing at another level (in both meanings of the word). To challenge the position of AVFC as Birminghams top club, BCFC needs to have a sustained run of better performances in the league stretching several seasons. One win now and again is not enough. Proportionally, it would be like claiming Everton is the biggest club on merseyside.

As for attendences, quality of the squad, and stadium, I won’t even bother stating the obvious.

And yes, of course I follow the villa.

A well made and well thought out series of points Norseman.

However I do wish to emphasise that I never suggested that City were the biggest club in the Birmingham or even close to becoming such, just that the gap between the two clubs has narrowed this season in terms of meetings between the two and league standings.

This isn’t to say that the infrastructure, vision or even youth policy of Villa is anyway inferior as I made no mention of this, as I was only commenting on events that have occurred so far this campaign on the pitch. I feel it is quite obvious that this season the usually wide divide between the two clubs has narrowed, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that Blues are in the ascendancy, as it could be put down to Villa’s early season slump.

They’ve Closed the Gap… What? Fed up of seeing this comment.

They haven’t closed the gap at all, we’ve temporally fallen back. They haven’t got better, obviously they haven’t or their league position would be better than it was last year.

Villa are clearly the biggest club in the city… there’s no competition… I don’t see how you can be “not so sure”.

Come the end of the season I expect now Villa don’t have 10 first team players injured, and now Houllier has established himself in the dressing room that the “gap” will be somewhat wider and some what more apparent.

Birmingham have been hugely lucky against Villa this season, even though we’ve been as poor as we have been in a long, long time. Even under O’Leary it wasn’t as bad as back then we hardly had the squad we have now.

Sundelrand better start looking over their shoulders. Villa and Liverpool are coming to get them.

Again. My point is not that they have closed the gap, but it has narrowed. My point is not that they have closed the gap, but it has narrowed.

More deluded Vilers. Did you get your Blues mates to type for you all as must be tricky with 12 fingers and no thumbs?

I think it would be easier to type with twelve fingers and no thumbs, as you don’t use your thumbs to type.

Stop the anti blue stuff… I am genuinely chuffed for them… I have been to many derbies, and I might add I was at the Southampton game in 85 86…. If you are not sure of the significance then look up the match stats… I am as big a villain as anyone I have met… And I am sick of the animosity… There is no sectarianism and no excuse. Just know you are the best and get on with it… They know we are better than them… If people keep trying to reinforce the point then surely sn outsider looking in would sense insecurity… I am proud of our club, and actully do not have a problem with theirs… Grow up people

Thank you Ianvilla for not measuring the love of your club by the amount of anomisity you feel for your local rivals.

Methinks some of the Villa fans on here doth protest too much.

The arrogance of you vile fans makes me smile

You think your better but when it comes to pride and passion for a club thats won f*** all you can’t touch us and thats where your streets behind.
You live in the past 7 FA cup victories you sing about …or used to so long ago nobody remembers or cares.
you seem to think because you have a big ground your a big club …get real look at the table. SWFC comes to mind two wins and an over price striker and you think your champions league material

Dream on think of past long past glory its all down hill

The City is ours

I’m confused…what is my street behind mart434u?

Oh I see, it’s just bad grammar.

But I’ll bet what he lacks in grammar mart434u makes up for with some serious ‘pride and passion’. The sort of ‘pride and passion’ that leads to putting 10 thugs and Ben Foster on a pitch and calling it a football team.

And it’s not the big ground that makes Villa a big club. Villa have a big ground because we are a big club. And sometimes we even fill it. By contrast, St Andrews didn’t even sell out for the derby against your fiercest rivals.

Ambrose Mullranie ( i am not sure of the spelling ) left the Blues for Villa , in 1949

if my memory serves me correctly,

those were the days when both sets of supporters were

better mannered,towards each other,swapping good clean

banter,instead of,filthy insults, grow up and see football

for what it is,……A GAME. A SPORT…..be sportsmanlike

treat each other with a bit of respect,instead of showing

a lack of breeding.this is from a Blues fan of 81years,who

al so has respect for the Villa and what they have achieved.

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Nice one Gordon,

though a whippersnapper by comparison (of only 50) I fully concur with your sentiments.

Excellent trivia Gordon, thanks for your contribution and sentiments. I agree.